/"I have no ideological reasons for using linux, I use it because it's better than windows, but I really want my hardware to work. Whether it's by binary only drivers or with open source drivers, I really don't care as long as it works. / / //Anders " / I couldn't agree more. If converting M$ drones is going to happen then the "I really don't care as long as it works" is going to be the attitude of Joe and Jane Average. They lead fairly busy lives and really don't want to have to tinker with things like a PC --they just want them to work-- and that's their bottom line. Look at things from Joe and Jane Average's point of view. I don't have to program my TV, I just turn it on, and as for my VCR... well my brother set that up and now it works fine. As far as my cable box from my cable tv subscription, well the guy that installed it said to turn on the TV and the Box on and it would take about 1/2 hour for all the stuff to link up with the cable company and then I would be able to watch my new cable TV and if it didn't to call the support and have them fix it. Linux has the talent in the programmers and the ability to do essentially anything anyone else is doing, that goes for the GUI, hardware, an Office Suite, etc... I't just a matter of will and focus. Most people don't want to think about how things work, they just want them to work.... after all, why should they? It's their money and they'll spend it on "what ever works". Cheers, Curtis.