Kevin Dupuy wrote:
On Nov 23, 2007, at 10:08 PM, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
Thomas Goettlicher wrote:
Hi everyone, we want to redesign the YaST Control Center. Therefore we are looking for a radical new design.
Why?
The current design is perfectly good, and as close to flawless as it can be for what it is supposed to do.
Yes, because when you break it down, YaST Control Center is a container for opening the YaST modules. A bunch of icons that lead to the modules is perfect! The issue is not "YaST is fundamentally broken", the issue is new users, which, mind you, is what SUSE would like to get, may not understand which module they need for a specific task. The purpose is to make YaST clearer in where to go to do specific tasks.
This is your chance to share your ideas regarding YaST Control Center.
Keep it how it is! It works.
Refer to comment above.
Why waste time on unnecessary development (which will then have bugs), when the SuSE team *COULD* be using that same time, energy, and attention working on things that are currently broken.
That's why there is more than one developer at SUSE ;).
If you were a shop keeper, and there was a leak in your roof, or maybe a pipe, would you waste time replacing the plate glass in the display window?
Refer to comment above.
I've never seen anyone in the user base is complaining ON ANY FORUM about YAST as it currently exists.
The "Problems" on the wiki page below are nothing more than issues of cosmetics (appearance) and organization of the YAST "functionality tree"..neither of which should require a major overhaul of YAST, only a few minor tweaks.
Probably because the new users to openSUSE would not subscribe to a mailing list. I have a magazine from 2005 complaining about SUSE 9.3's "Bloated YaST underbelly (Linux Format, SUSE 9.3 Review)", and I do hear people compaining about SUSE's confusing YaST control center.
YaST is no more difficult to use than any other System-level GUI admin tool that I've ever used...and MUCH simpler than the equivalent Microsoft tool. The people who complain that YaST is too confusing are probably confused by every other sys-admin tool out there. I seriously cannot believe that there are people out there who are both confused by YaST **AND** totally proficient at system administration tasks on ANY other distro, or even ANY other operating system.
Please feel free to contribute with mockups and (unconventional) ideas here: http://en.opensuse.org/YaST/Development/New_Control_Center
All the mockups there have LESS functionality than the current YAST system. There's no way that your new control center is going to have just as much functionality as the current yast without requiring the window to be larger than the desktop, or to resort to minimizing the size of icons and labels, such as in the 3rd and 4th illustrations. YUCK!
What functionality does YaST, QT or GTK, have right now over choosing a category, icon, and search? What would we loose?
Thanks, Thomas ---
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