I just checked out IT guy setting up routes and firewall rules on its Win2003 servers - really have come a long way - nice GUI with click, dropdown of machines/people/groups (ala ActiveDir). Dont get me wrong, I never touch the stuff, but its getting really difficult to argue Linux firewall, routing, print and file servers to the Win IT guy - there is just not anything (that I know of) that comes close to the ease of use (setting up routes and firewall rules especially). Can someone point me to something? At the moment all ammo I have is that Win is expensive and locks you into the Win platform (which is a point at out shop, seeing everything is already win based). E-Mail disclaimer: http://www.sunspace.co.za/emaildisclaimer.htm -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org