On Wednesday 06 July 2011 13:07:47, Sven Burmeister wrote:
Am Dienstag, 5. Juli 2011, 16:39:04 schrieb Daniel Bauer:
But konqueror now is not "real" konqueror. It looks just like a "wrapper" for dolphin. The goodies that konqueror had are gone. The "information" given are exactly the same as in dolphin and not what konqueror used to have.
True, I mentioned it elsewhere that konqueror cannot survive on its own because of a lack of community and hence developers.
Yes, I guess I wrote this before. As I am not a developper I simply have to accept what is offered, and most of it is great on Linux. This doesn't change that I cry at night because konqueror doesn't exist in its original form anymore :-)
Yet Per's main concern was the viewer and AFAIK that is still possible.
It's not dolphin's fault that konqueror was abandoned and it's not dolphin's aim to replace it since it does have a different philosophy. So blaming dolphin that it does not replace konqueror is the wrong approach in my opinion. Not saying that you stated that, but it is a common argument.
No, I did not state that. In contrary I like the approach that everybody can choose what s/he likes most. Only, because of the disappearing of konqueror only dolphin remains as a graphical file manager for klicky-klicky-people like me...
Of course its a philosophy to have 10'000 windows open: for each single task another one, and to search the file u are working on in each of these apps.
A bit exaggerated don't you think? You do not have to search for the files in the app if you opened it via the file-manager.
Well, this is only somehow true... - Once digikam is open, for example, I have to navigate in digikam. When I come back to dolphin, I have to navigate there again. I cannot navigate in digikam using the file manager. - The same applies to fileZillam which I have to use, since dolphin is not capable to transfer many files in one task to a remote computer - Searching files is another topic. Dolphin gives quite random rsults (for example when searching a text within a file) - it finds nothing, something or sometimes even all, depending on who knows what... I must use kfind, this means starting it separately, choose path to search etc.
In fact with an index in place often you do not even need a filemanager to navigate to the folder but just use ALT+F2, type the filename and open it.
This doesn't help me. I always have many files with the same name and almost the same contents (same image in different sizes, different editing versions, but same file-names).
And embedding everything forces you to only have one viewer open at the same time, i.e. you cannot compare files unless you open a second konqueror or tile it to death.
No, you are still free to use the different apps, you are not forced to nothing. But konqueror hat *possibilities*. (b.t.w. in regard of comparing files I also miss kuickshow, another geniuous program that disapperad due to lack of developers. In my next life I come back as a linux programmer :-))
However it is sad that the ingenious multi-functional program konqueror disapperad. It is to accept, because linux is free and the devs are free to put their energy where they want, and (except dolphin) there are really many many great apps. But te lack of konqueror *is* sad, it was a central and very helpful tool.
Yep. But apparently not to too many.
I guess most users of Linux are not developpers, just consumers that want a realiable system (therefor not use MS) and not want to be dependent of a single company (therefor also not use Mac). And some, like me, because of the politically important idea of sharing knowledge. SO there may be many people missing something, but that doesn't change anything, because it depends of available devs.
Sven
However, as I cannot bring in anything to a solution in this topic, I consider my texts as rants (I could not resist afetr reading many times "use konq") and I stop now... a nice day to everybody! Daniel -- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Barcelona professional photography: http://www.daniel-bauer.com erotic nudes: http://www.guapamania.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org