Ok, good news, sound server is working good, KDE Media Player (Noatun) is woking great and I am using it for sounds and such in Konqueror now! Whew! RealPlayer still not working, never has, no big deal there and shockwave flash player plugin not working in Konqueror still, but I am half way there! That's something, isn't it!! 8~) Still learning. Oh, for those folks that are still having or may have trouble with sound after updating to KDE 2.2, I find that running aRts and full duplex on the sound server at the same time is a no-no. Turn off full duplex and see if your user problems go away with sound. End of line Tracer -- ---KMail 1.3--- SuSE Linux v7.2--- Registered Linux User #225206 /tracerb@sprintmail.com/ *Magic Page Products* *Team Amiga* http://home.sprintmail.com/~tracerb