Well, Perhaps, I missed out on something with borland but, I found my experience with their product to be one of the worst I've ever had in life. It sold for close to $90 (more than my last 5 linux systems) I could not even use the product until I filled out a questionnaire on-line (which included ALL my personal information) and then registered the product; at which point, I received my "activation key" (those word sound familiar?) for the product. The product really took over my system. And in the end I was unable to get a simple applet to work using awt components with a gridbag layout because of the code it kept placing in my source files. Had lots of trouble removing it as well. I don't consider myself programmer of the century but I thought I wasn't asking to much of the product. All in all it was a extremely bad experience. Dare I say much worse than any MS product I've had to deal with in the past. I'm very disappointed in Borland at the moment. They have surpassed MS in the commercial game in my opinion. If I have given the product a hasty judgment please let me know. Thanks, Robert Napolitano