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--------------085A3901618F78E5EF354FB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Pascal, My points are these: I work in a DoD shop that does all of its networking with Lanman. Currently, if you want to play Lanman, you buy Microsoft. Microsoft's architecture is proprietary. Microsoft is doing everything they can to whipe out any and all competition, except for that token competition that can be used for defense in antitrust law suits. They don't share thier protocols. NT is restrictive in many ways. It *is easy to work with, and has some very impressive features. Nonetheless, I am finding that I like UNIX more than NT. One can simply do more with UNIX/Linux. One of the problems with UNIX is that it is harder to use than NT. This is changing. (That is material for another thread though.) NT is growing fast. I remember when a CNE was the thing to be. Now it is MCSE. I firmly believe that UNIX can do what NT can do, only better. If this can be accomplished, NT will be only one of many solutions. One will learn a conceptual framework rather than a product line. If I know Unix I can move between Linux, HP-UX, Solaris, etc. I also wanted to plug the book. I like it. My reasons for posting here were to find out who knows what, and to let people know about someting I find interesting. I figure, if I am going to be using suse, I should try to strengthen the user base by sharing what little bit I find valuable. Samba may prove to be a total wash. Something tells me this is not the case. Pascal Bleser wrote:
Well, it's an interesting mail, but what's the point ? ;-)I have some experience with Samba, and I've already helped out some people on mailing-lists (even some french people who put their smb.conf on the Win95 hosts 8^D !??!?), so if I can help you out with this, don't hesitate (pbleser@prov-liege.be)... although I have to say, that I didn't try out a lot with that PAM stuff... Pascal
-----Original Message----- From: Steven T. Hatton
To: suse-linux-e@suse.com Date: lundi 30 mars 1998 06:24 Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Samba anyone?I am currently reading up on Samba. If you don't know, Samba is a way to make your WinDos-NT system think your Linux/UNIX box is one of them. I have not seen any evidence yet of Samba being able to fully implement the NT SAM. I have seen a glimmer of hope that the Samba Team may try to implement an alternative, and perhaps NT compatible, solution using LDAP. Since I am slowly becoming something of an expert in LDAP, this would really make me happy. I also think it would make for a much more powerful and versatile service than WINS/Browsing/SAM. I have a friend who works in a biological research lab with a limited budget who needs to support Lanman browsing across subnets. Samba could be used with Linux to effect this at a very low cost.
I guess if I wish to say much more about Samba, I should say that on the Samba mailing list. I'll just leave y'all with a plug for John D. Blair's new book *Samba, Integrating Unix and Windows*. It is well written and informative.
-- "Alles Vergaengliche Ist nur ein Gleichniss" -Goethe, as quoted in Ludwig Boltzmann's Vorlessungen ueber Gastheorie.
-- "Alles Vergaengliche Ist nur ein Gleichniss" -Goethe, as quoted in Ludwig Boltzmann's Vorlessungen ueber Gastheorie. --------------085A3901618F78E5EF354FB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML> <BODY BGCOLOR="#D2D2D2"> Pascal, My points are these: I work in a DoD shop that does all of its networking with Lanman. Currently, if you want to play Lanman, you buy Microsoft. Microsoft's architecture is proprietary. Microsoft is doing everything they can to whipe out any and all competition, except for that token competition that can be used for defense in antitrust law suits. They don't share thier protocols. NT is restrictive in many ways. It *is easy to work with, and has some very impressive features. Nonetheless, I am finding that I like UNIX more than NT. One can simply do more with UNIX/Linux. One of the problems with UNIX is that it is harder to use than NT. This is changing. (That is material for another thread though.) NT is growing fast. I remember when a CNE was the thing to be. Now it is MCSE. I firmly believe that UNIX can do what NT can do, only better. If this can be accomplished, NT will be only one of many solutions. One will learn a conceptual framework rather than a product line. If I know Unix I can move between Linux, HP-UX, Solaris, etc. I also wanted to plug the book. I like it. My reasons for posting here were to find out who knows what, and to let people know about someting I find interesting. I figure, if I am going to be using suse, I should try to strengthen the user base by sharing what little bit I find valuable. Samba may prove to be a total wash. Something tells me this is not the case. Pascal Bleser wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE> <FONT SIZE=-1><FONT COLOR="#000000">Well, it's an interesting mail, but what's the point ? ;-)</FONT>I have some experience with Samba, and I've already helped out some people on mailing-lists (even some french people who put their smb.conf on the Win95 hosts 8^D !??!?), so if I can help you out with this, don't hesitate (pbleser@prov-liege.be)... although I have to say, that I didn't try out a lot with that PAM stuff...</FONT> <FONT SIZE=-1>Pascal</FONT> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #000000 solid 2px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"><B><FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1>-----Original Message-----</FONT></FONT></B> <FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1><B>From: </B>Steven T. Hatton mailto:hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil"hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil</A>></FONT></FONT> <FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1><B>To: </B>mailto:suse-linux-e@suse.com">suse-linux-e@suse.com</A> mailto:suse-linux-e@suse.com"suse-linux-e@suse.com</A>></FONT></FONT> <FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1><B>Date: </B>lundi 30 mars 1998 06:24</FONT></FONT> <FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1><B>Subject: </B>[S.u.S.E. Linux] Samba anyone?</FONT></FONT>I am currently reading up on Samba. If you don't know, Samba is a way to make your WinDos-NT system think your Linux/UNIX box is one of them. I have not seen any evidence yet of Samba being able to fully implement the NT SAM. I have seen a glimmer of hope that the Samba Team may try to implement an alternative, and perhaps NT compatible, solution using LDAP. Since I am slowly becoming something of an expert in LDAP, this would really make me happy. I also think it would make for a much more powerful and versatile service than WINS/Browsing/SAM. I have a friend who works in a biological research lab with a limited budget who needs to support Lanman browsing across subnets. Samba could be used with Linux to effect this at a very low cost. I guess if I wish to say much more about Samba, I should say that on the Samba mailing list. I'll just leave y'all with a plug for John D. Blair's new book *Samba, Integrating Unix and Windows*. It is well written and informative. -- "Alles Vergaengliche Ist nur ein Gleichniss" -Goethe, as quoted in Ludwig Boltzmann's Vorlessungen ueber Gastheorie. </BLOCKQUOTE> </BLOCKQUOTE> -- "Alles Vergaengliche Ist nur ein Gleichniss" -Goethe, as quoted in Ludwig Boltzmann's Vorlessungen ueber Gastheorie. </BODY> </HTML> --------------085A3901618F78E5EF354FB0-- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e