I have just finished installing SuSE Linux 8.1, then I wanted to setup KWinTV to make use of my Hauppauge TV card, which has worked perfectly with previous versions of SuSE Linux. I never got to see the application. The only thing I saw was KDE´ s crash handler. Has anyone else experienced this? I have installed, updated through YOU and setup HTTP, SSH and SMTP servers. Nothing else, before trying KWinTV. Here is the output from KDE´ s crash handler: ====================================================== (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...[New Thread 1024 (LWP 1543)] (no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... 0x40fd38c9 in wait4 () from /lib/libc.so.6 #0 0x40fd38c9 in wait4 () from /lib/libc.so.6 #1 0x4104ec90 in __DTOR_END__ () from /lib/libc.so.6 #2 0x40e10a93 in waitpid () from /lib/libpthread.so.0 #3 0x405e2505 in KCrash::defaultCrashHandler(int) () from /opt/kde3/lib/libkdecore.so.4 #4 0x40e0e12b in pthread_sighandler () from /lib/libpthread.so.0 #5 <signal handler called> #6 0x40882340 in QApplication::postEvent(QObject*, QEvent*) () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #7 0x0807f9b1 in QPtrList<char>::deleteItem(void*) () #8 0x408153f6 in qt_set_x11_event_filter(int (*)(_XEvent*)) () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #9 0x4081f655 in QApplication::x11ProcessEvent(_XEvent*) () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #10 0x4081f35f in QApplication::processNextEvent(bool) () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #11 0x40883380 in QApplication::enter_loop() () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #12 0x40a2f241 in QDialog::exec() () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #13 0x4041e29d in KWritePermsIcon::qt_property(int, int, QVariant*) () from /opt/kde3/lib/libkdeui.so.4 #14 0x40421771 in KMessageBox::information(QWidget*, QString const&, QString const&, QString const&, int) () from /opt/kde3/lib/libkdeui.so.4 #15 0x080a8b8a in QListView::removeItem(QListViewItem*) () #16 0x0807eed8 in QPtrList<char>::deleteItem(void*) () #17 0x0807fec6 in QPtrList<char>::deleteItem(void*) () #18 0x40f4e4a2 in __libc_start_main () from /lib/libc.so.6 ============================================================ Best regards, David List