On 09/20/2012 07:55 PM, Rajko wrote:
I still don't get what is the problem? It is something like 1 or 2 lines.
There is no real problem but as I wrote in my initial reply to Carlos, I find it useless for my purposes, so I asked if it is possible to disable it. Up to now, no one answered to my initial question. I have had to find the answer by myself by looking inside the source code.
I don't know what language version you are using, but in English, message is only warning and only recommendation to run 'zypper ps', if user wants to. For sure, it doesn't suggest that one must run 'zypper ps' or else :)
I use English and the exact message is: There are some running programs that use files deleted by recent upgrade. You may wish to restart some of them. Run 'zypper ps' to list these programs. So, if I want to list affected programs, I have to run "zypper ps", as I wrote. Or do you know another way to obtain such list? Well, for install/update, by some advanced bash scripting you can combine zypper history, rpm contents and lists of files used by running processes in order to find such processes, but when you remove packages...
So, if it is a necessity, why is it missing in YaST?
That something is missing in YaST doesn't mean it is not needed.
It is useful but it is not a necessity (in the meaning given by logic to the term necessity).
It could be that is not implemented yet, or it will appear only when you configure YaST software management to show summary. Default is just to exit.
I use summary, but have no pending updates right now so I can't check. Problem is also that warning does not appear when update is applied to software that is not running, so it can be even harder to test.
I think it is not implemented since if implemented, it is well hidden or at least I am not able to find it: I checked each menu but nothing seems to recall such functionality. As you, I use summary and the only available logs are the Installation log (list of changed packages) and Post-Installation log (output of SUSEconfig).
I think it is more useful for ordinary users that install/update their system via YaST than for more expert users using zypper.
I think it is good to use whatever floats your boat.
but if you have to row, it is better to jettison unnecessary ballast.
For me both, zypper and YaST Software Management, and related modules, have almost distinctive use.
For me too.
Even without warning experienced user will know from list of updated packages what is the next step.
So they do not need this reminder since: updated firefox -> restart firefox; updated kernel -> reboot; updated manufacturer_PPDs -> restart cups; updated gimp -> ignore (gimp not running) updated unknown library -> zypper ps. Summing up: experienced users do not need the warning as they know what to do; non-experienced users usually use YaST and they do not have warnings since YaST does not show them.
BTW, did you try to run 'zypper ps' after YaST Online Update? It should work.
With YaST sw_single it works (YOU not tried), but it has strange side effects on yast such as: "Deleting <package>" while sw_single is installing it and no Installation log available in the summary. Bug report?
Thanks to your complaint my list of items to watch is a bit bigger and 'zypper ps' will find its use on the other people computers, as a debugging tool :)
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