On 21/04/17 11:41 AM, L A Walsh wrote:
Anton Aylward wrote:
On 20/04/17 04:06 PM, L A Walsh wrote:
I don't like sysd because it leaves me with a non-bootable system. You can't claim that's unfair when its the truth.
It may be the truth but then again it may be an emergent property from other decisions you have made that have painted you into this cul-de-sac.
--- Yes... I attempted to install only using the provided setup options on the DVD. No custom options. Silly me -- relying on the standard install DVD to setup a system.
There a lot of customization options if you are willing to explore and experiment. More to the point, if you do a 'standard' install from the DVD you'll have a system on which you have a non-zero initrd, can run lsinitrd, can customise the dracut config for when you rebuild the kernel ...
As for your other remarks, you have to be thinking of someone else, as neither of your comments _could_ apply to me.
It seems that non of our suggestions, (putting modules in /etc/modules-load.d/ is one example) don't work for the context you have set yourself up in.
---- Yeah, the context of trying to
What it boils down to, Linda, is that the context you have set yourself up in is far enough removed form the one9s) the rest of us are running that what works for the rest of us, works well for us, works quite easily for the rest of of us, don't work for you.
--- What it boils down to is that there is a bug in yast. There is no single context for "the rest of us"... You are deluded if you think everyone is just like you.
The gulf isn't 'just like me', the gulf is between Linda and 'the rest of us'. I just happen to be the one calling you out at this point in the thread.
Many of us work to shrink out initrd and make systems load faster and all that.
--- I did that too on my main system. Shrunk it to size=0. It boots in about 10-15 seconds (not an SSD).
My system boots in a little less, then spends about 20 seconds setting up KDE with Thunderbird, Firefox, a few Konsoles and Dolphin. Of the 20 or so seconds, nearly 8 seconds is taken by LVM initialization and "settling". I'm sure if I was using SSD instead of rotating rust many of the figures such as that, the initial FSCK of the partitions would be reduced. What I'm saying, Linda, is that starting from a plain DVD install, tweaking the build of the initrd using dracut.conf, I can do as well or almost as well as your times when I boot my desktop every morning, without the pain sweat and anguish you are going though. More to the point, when I ask advice of the forum, or look to the How-To, even when they pertain to Arch or Redhat, about kernel modes, systemd modes, tuning and more, I can make use of the advice, because I've stuck with a 'mainstream' installation.
I look at the output of my 'lsinitrd' and I'm sure I could strip more out, male sysd do more in parallel.
Ah... you are stripping your male sysd?
My what? Oh, typo time: "... make systemd ..."
As for doing an lsinitrd -- normally mine is empty, but was trying to use a more standard setup supported by yast, but it has a bug that prevents it from working.
Dunno.I don't use Yast much, just for doing things that I want a bit more comparative visibility than I get using zypper. Or maybe for advice about adding optional repository. I'm not sure if CL:I has the bug of which you speak, but the fall-back with CLI is always VIM. its a lot more powerful than Yast, but it relies on a different knowledge base, one in a handwritten book I keep rather than what a programmer decided to encode.
Perhaps I could defer mounting some partitions until services or user login needed them? Hmm that probably wouldn't speed things up much, the criticality is establishing a network connection.
But that plymouth, that splashy stuff? How to get rid of it? Is adding it as an "omit" in /etc/dracut.conf the right way?
--- ??? on a text mode console?
Yes, that's my point. I boot text mode, so why TF is it in there? -- A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org