I am figuring it out. Thanks to the letter about pounding out the xeyes etc. I now knew that I was to go in and edit '.fvwm2rc file and put what I thought I should be in and watch. Going good now. Now Isn't that stupid, Plus I have always been told to stay from config files, so I do. But sound is still eluding me.. I am only glad that I have 2 weeks off to figure out how to hear something when I click the mouse. Works with tkdesk though. Looking at other configurations and the code helps immensely.. Anyone know the extreme numbers for sound. All I have seen is 127 Thanks immensely -- -- LINUX IS THE PATH. TEX <A HREF="http://www.ccms.net/~mhtexcollins/78704.htm"><A HREF="http://www.ccms.net/~mhtexcollins/78704.htm</A">http://www.ccms.net/~mhtexcollins/78704.htm</A</A>> __ / / __ _ _ _ _ __ __ / /__ / / / \// //_// \ \/ / /____/ /_/ /_/\/ /___/ /_/\_\ ...for IQ's Greater than 95... -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e