* Carlos E. R. <robin.listas@telefonica.net> [07-06-20 14:12]:
On 06/07/2020 16.14, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Carlos E. R. <robin.listas@telefonica.net> [07-06-20 10:03]:
On 06/07/2020 14.18, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Knurpht-openSUSE <knurpht@opensuse.org> [07-06-20 08:14]:
Op maandag 6 juli 2020 14:05:09 CEST schreef Patrick Shanahan:
> zypper patch > zypper up > zypper dup --from Packman --allow-vendor-change
so where did you decide that "zypper dup ... " was necessary or required?
you should not utilize "zypper dup" for Leap. Please read first. One should use 'dup' in this occasion. The 'dup --from ....." is necessary to make the vendor change for the Packman repo. Exactly what the "Switch system packages ...." item in YaST does.
he already did the "dup" from packman. it is not necessary to repeat. what did I not "read first"?
Problem is, sometimes a package changes and has to be installed from packman "instead".
You will need to explain that to me as it makes absolutely no sense.
Well, developers change their mind, don't ask me.
well it was your statement and still makes no sense, and you have failed to explain.
After using dup to apply from a *specific* repo, that repo becomes the current vendor and will be retained until it is directed to change.
Only for the packages that were switched that time.
why would it do anything different? what would one want differen? that would be one's expectation. anything different would be unexpected and a bug.
If a package changes not from packman, it will be updated from the repo where it was previously taken.
Exactly.
If it needs to be from packman instead of that repo, it will require *specific* direction to do so.
No, you need to know or find out.
and I fail to understand that statement. if I direct zypper to utilize a different repo, zypper has no way to understand that I might want something different, nor does yast. why would you presume otherwise?
Suppose package somevideothing. It is installed from oss repo. It is not available on packman. Then five months later, it appears in packman. Chances are, we need to switch that package to packman for some funcionality.
then *you* need to tell zypper to change it as zypper would have no idea and one cannot expect it to. if it changed repos w/o you expressing that wish, it would be a bug.
The reverse also happens, a package disapears from packman and appears in "multimedia" repo.
zypper is *not* all knowing and neither is yast and one cannot expect them to be. *you* administer your boxes and *you* must acquire that knowledge. I cannot even wonder why you bring this condition. . -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org