On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 6:19 PM, Anton Aylward <opensuse@antonaylward.com> wrote:
On 03/09/2015 07:58 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
"As I say, the right or wrong of it has been debated here endlessly and nothing has changed as a result.
Hmm, sounds like when your way was the right way, it was the right way and mine was the wrong way. Now you've changed the goal posts and there's no one right way.
You seem confused here, Chris. A number of us, if you look to the archives, have brought this up before and it has proven futile. That's why I say "What it is, it is".
I never said it was right, I said it is what it is.
Bullshit. "I subscribe to the list so there is no need to cc me as well. Getting two copies of each of your emails is an annoyance. Please do not do that." That's a demand I change my behavior, CONTRARY to the list guidelines. "Please stop cc'ing me when you send to the list. I read the list and it really is distracting and annoying to get two copies." Another demand for me to change my behavior. "Indeed. It's a small scale version of mailbombing." An accusation, contrary to the guidelines. "The protocols outlined for this list are simple: either reply to list or reply off list. No need for both. Cc'ing is akin to mailbombing. Please don't do it." A distortion of the guidelines, they clearly say the exact opposite, the problem of duplicate emails is the responsibility of the receiver as it is on all other lists. It is not mail bombing, it's the expected behavior described in detail in the guidelines I've cited and even quoted plain as day yet you keep saying the opposite. "I take it that you have to do that because you chose to use a crippled MUA that doesn't recognise this is a posting to the list and offer a "reply to list" function, so you have to go though that manual process." Yet another false claim, that I am supposed to change my software to accommodate your ignorance of the guidelines.
We've also learnt that trying to get it changed is futile. You can see that in the archives too.
If you think you can do better then you take it to the list manager.
I'm not asking for change. I have no problem with the guidelines as they're written. If I were to take anything to the list manager it would your demand that others change their behavior when the guidelines very clearly say the responsibility is yours. And that your persistent complaining, by your own admission, amounts to harassment and itself a departure from the "Don't be aggressive" section of the guidelines.
No, as I said, its a recognition that our efforts to being about change there is futile.
Your request has been denied. Deal with it. I'm following the list guidelines precisely as they're written. You can either: "Some people don't like it when they receive a reply to a list post direct to their email address, but they will make this clear by setting their 'Reply-To' field" OR "have the option of configuring their software to delete extra copies of messages that have the same message-id, so they'll never see a duplicate message" https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Mailing_list_netiquette#Personal_and_mail_l... -- Chris Murphy -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org