On 2018-09-04 17:30, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 09/04/2018 08:50 AM, Richard Brown wrote:
1. is a slight annoyance which anyone on any SUSE or openSUSE distribution before 15 needs to deal with
I even have to take my hat off to that diplomatic whitewash....
Meant constructively. That rivals the best political spin, and is akin to statements by M$, e.g., explaining the rash of blue-screens and 8 hour failed updates for the 1803 roll-out. ("some customers experienced slight difficulty with the upgrade...")
The un-whitewashed version reads "Before 15, there were problems with btrfs".
Why spin on a technical mailing list? This is one place where the discussion must be fact, statistic and code based. Why does it seem impossible to get a straight-answer regarding brtfs?
<quote> Looking briefly at the thread it seems obvious to me that the user in question had a number of problems
1- an old installation with an old btrfs layout - modern btrfs installations have /var as a single subvolume. 2- a disk too small for their use - 40GB should be fine for many users, but that is just a default. After all anyone storing anything in /var, such as logs, is going to be 'robbing' space otherwise useful for snapshots </quote>
WTF? Those are the YAST defaults.
Yes, indeed. Don't blame the user. And his problems was snapshots that the system had lost the accounting of, not logs or anything. So having /var differently would not help. So far, it looks as system error (design?), not user error. ...
I just look from the standpoint of providing a btrfs set up that can be as fire-and-forget as reiser or ext4. If a few additional install questions or information boxes, and an update to the YAST partitioner will help -- let's do it -- so we eliminate these "slight annoyance" circumstances.
Absolutely.
No doubt progress is being made. We have gone from weekly "Root is full" posts to monthly or less -- to that's progress, but if the new user which opensuse has been geared to for the past decade is still have problems with the YAST default partitioning and filesystem selection -- then there is still more to do.
Yep. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 15.0 (Legolas)) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org