On 07/24/2015 12:14 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 9:47 AM, Anton Aylward <opensuse@antonaylward.com> wrote:
On 07/24/2015 10:40 AM, Chris Murphy wrote:
Use quotas.
You mean instead of traiffs?
That may make (some? more?) sense in a mutli-use context, but for a single user home system its an administrative detail I don't need.
Versus dithering on how to partition a drive, versus always having to overestimate the amount of space because resizing is yet another admin detail.
Are you not paying attention? You are talking about the classical problem with partitioning that used to annoy the hell out of me in the old PDP-11 and SCO UNIX days, and still does with ext4, of determining provision in advance of actual use. The reasons for partitioning still hold. Making /tmp noexec,nosuid is a security fix. Having a seperate /tmp means no hard links which is another security fix. Having seperate /var, /local and more makes upgrading easier if you need to wipe the RootFS. And so on. The way around the provisioning problem that I found as simple; 1. Use LVM. Not only can you grow/shrink partitions, you can use additional drive or parts of drives. 2. Use ReiserFS (or XFS) so you don't have to figure out how many inodes you need ahead of time.
I will bet dollars to donuts users who engage in such excessive partitioning buy bigger drives, so the habit costs them more money too.
HO HO HO, very funny. Big dives, the 1 Terabyte, are cheaper than the ones half that size at most outlets I visit. And anyway, using LVM I can mix and match, use any drive I have, of any size. I can even mix SATA with ATA with IDE. If I really wanted to save money I could pick up old small drives from thrift stores and garage sales, check the bad blocks out when i build the LVM and LO! You whole argument falls apart in another direction. Working with the multi spindle "old iron" of the PDP/VAX days I learnt that the parallelism of IO was a powerful thing!
Since it's a home computer, all the more reason to just single partition and forget about it. Most computer users have no understanding of partitions anyway - it's esoteric. Basic knowledge for an admin, esoteric knowledge for anybody else.
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