I just recently ran a selective synaptic upgrade, everything except a few gnome packages that were going to replace ulb packages. I finished the upgrade in windowmaker because I was going to upgrade kde, logging into kde this morning k mail had no fonts. Konquror as well. the desktop however looked normal, it seems it's just kde apps. I tried gnome but gnome has no fonts anywhere. I ran SuSEconfig which didn't fix it. I have a edited sources.list base funktronics kde packman packman-i686 security update suser-rbos usr-local-bin wine Any ideas on how to get kde apps in kde, and gnome working again? Sorry if this has been asked but with my new job I can't read as much of the mail from this list as I used to. TIA -- E.F.Maurer Using SuSE 9.0 Pro