-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
Hi,
On Wed, 31 May 2006, Pascal Bleser wrote:
In case you didn't notice (yet) and while an announcement of the maintainer(s) would have been nice ;)...
The KDE supplementary repository is now empty and has been moved to the Build Service: http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/ftp.suse.com/suse/i386/supplementary/KDE/R...
Seconded your protest & request for better transparency. This was really an is-no-good happening. The biggest ever. ... For APT the old directories are simply gone, and the new directories still are not configured, plus: it IS NOT TRANSPARENT ENOUGH FOR ME TO DO IT!
So: PROTEST against this unconcious behaviour!
Yes, it's a bit... unfortunate ;) As said, it's a good move to have it in the BS, but guys, please keep in mind what it can involve and all the side effects. Just to be clear: I'm not saying it shouldn't have been moved to the BS - - but it must be better advertised, announced, and coordinated with us (or at least some of us). Examples: - - Eberhard doesn't know about it, so he can't update the apt repos (if at all), same goes for Richard (Bos) - - I didn't know about it, so I couldn't provide a package upgrade for smart in time (as it includes the KDE suppl. channel) - - we could have contacted mirror admins beforehand - - there must be an announcement on the front page of opensuse.org + in the newsfeed of opensuse.org + on planetsuse.org - - active helpers on the mailing-lists and IRC channels would have been informed and could have helped people asking for it, the information could have been spread to other parts of the community, such as the web forums Really, guys, technically it's a good move but from an organizational point of view, it's a disaster. You must inform the community (at the very least, a post on opensuse@opensuse.org and we can take care of the rest) a week before so we can put everything into place to make it a smooth experience to everyone. Please remember it next time ;D
That's a very nice move, but I'd like to make a couple of remarks nevertheless: - - is there already feedback from FTP admins for mirrors ?
No. Surprise only.
Ugh. I'm going to contact the skynet admin tomorrow. Can someone take care of contacting others ?
A lot of people are using that repository to use the latest KDE, and there was a very decent mirror infrastructure available (e.g. skynet, belnet, several mirrors in Germany, ...), but we're starting at 0 at the moment :\
Yes. Totally zeroed-out by an unconscious administrative act.
- - please announce such stuff beforehand
Not enough; those "switch-movers" at SUSE have to learn other matters before they should get allowed to touch the switch: "vision" the situation at the remote sides.
Ok, s/announce/announce and discuss/g ;)
I know Adrian has written 2 or 3 times that he wants to move suppl. KDE to the BS, but what you guys think is trivial and not important is actually being used by a vast number of SUSE Linux users out there. Some announcement, e.g. a week beforehand + published on the opensuse.org frontpage and feed, would have been desirable, to say the least ;) ...
cheers - -- -o) Pascal Bleser http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/ /\\ <pascal.bleser@skynet.be> <guru@unixtech.be> _\_v The more things change, the more they stay insane. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFEfOEQr3NMWliFcXcRAij+AJ4qAWC5IB/rRXbi1+aOekm166I4rwCfZYSR zEFNdylsG5sz34K/dcruDWQ= =LsD0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----