On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 10:34:47AM -0500, James Knott wrote:
On 12/17/2014 10:27 AM, Ruben Safir wrote:
wow - you have iptables...
imagine that.
So whats your point? I have exactly what I said, that is a computer running openSUSE 13.1 as firewall.
No that is not what you said and it is not what you implied either. You said nothing like that. You said that your firewalll was opensuse 13.1 as if that should mean something in the context of the conversation. It is the kind of non-exact, fuzzy nonsense that makes you seem foolish and as if your net background is an disconjuctive associations of manufactorers product pamphlets without any true depth of understanding of how things actually work. And that is the point. Likewise, when you say, lets just put the total kitchen sink of features into firefox because it is "convienent", and "people find it convienent" that is utter marketing BS based on a fuzzy logic, limited data points and a TOTAL lack of original thought. People learn to use what they are forced to use and then everything else becomes "inconvinent". Firefox has enough trouble just not crashing at this point and has functional design problems in its core features at an unprecedented level. They need to stop coding altogether and debug what they have and pair it down to an operational functional unit. Everything doesn't have to be systemd and SWALLOW whole everything in its path. The fact is, you have demonstrated minimal background on the core infrastructure of IP network control, what you would call firewalling. Meanwhile you are taking up the high and mighty advocacy for technolgoies that you clearly don't understand. Furthermore, you don't understand what existed from before. And you have less understanding of how all these peices fit together. Let me drop some hints on you... and then you can go from there. Cell Phones and Mobile devices not only DON'T NEED public dot quads, but they are better off without publically accessable internet connections. We have not run out of IP addresses being used because, LOW and BEHOLD, a great portion of the assigned IP space is not being used. I for example, have 3 IP addresses I don't need. I only need one, actually. NYU certainly, for example, doesn't need a WHOLE Class A network Finally, ip6 SUCKS because, amoung other things, it is not easily backward compatable to IP4, and it uses MAC addresses. It is a clusterfuck created by a consortium of corperate players... which is why it sucks. IF there was a serious problem with IP space, they could have just added another byte to the addressing scheme. But no...they had to shove everything under the sun into the format, and it sucks. People will adopt it when they are DRAGGED to do so. Ruben
Like I said earlier, you really need an attitude adjustment. You come in here and act as though you're the only one who knows anything, whether this thread or the one on profiles. It gets old fast.
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