On Tue, Oct 30, 2001 at 04:22:01PM -0800, Jon Pennington wrote:
--- Cliff Sarginson <cliff@raggedclown.net> wrote:
Why is it that there are a group of people on this list who scream at even the slightest hint that Suse is not always doing a wonderful job. It is such a childish reaction.
I don't think SuSE is perfect (indeed, SuSE is far from it), but I grow tired of a few things:
- Wah! SuSE FTP server is slow!
People may genuinely wonder if they are doing something wrong
- Wah! Blah worked fine before the &^%$#@ upgrade!
--ditto-- the above point
- Wah! I can't see blah blah fonts blah blah!
I never read these, since I can be of no help. I suppose people do like to be able to comfortably read what is on their screen though.
Known issues, folks. I get tired of saying so. EVERYBODY knows that the SuSE FTP server is overloaded all of the time, no exceptions; use a mirror.
You assume everyone on this list has been hanging out here for as long as you have. EVERYBODY does not know this. It is even conceivable some people may not even know what a mirror is, or that one geographically nearer by may be faster or less over-crowded (even that is not always true).
Okay, so upgrading packages breaking things sucks; it's often completely unavoidable, though. Such is life. And like I give a rat's ass what fonts look like to you...I'll try to help, but I bet
This is a very unpleasant attitude.
you've not done your research on this.
Asking on the list is a factor in that research, perhaps it should not be the first resort. And package upgrading causing damage is *not* a good thing. Some people btw believe what SuSE says when they buy the box in the store, and are maybe quite disappointed to find a lot of it is marketing baloney.
That and the pointless (and apparently inexhaustable) supply of pointless Microsoft bashing devalues this list, and quite frankly makes it a royal pain to wade through the drivel.
Once in a while, yes. I'm not a Microsoft Champion, but I try not to badmouth things I can't control (tip 'o the hat to Ben).
It is much more prevalent here than on any other list I am on. That includes other Linux, Freebsd and various technical lists.
If you look at the front page to Geocrawler, you'll see that SLE is consistently in the top-five of all of the email lists they monitor and archive. Consistently higher: SL(DE), LKML, Debian-User; tough competition. We have a pretty low S/N ratio here, which gets annoying, but there's a lot of good exchanges here, too. You take the good with the bad.
Of course there are a lot of good exchanges here, but there are also a lot of people who seem to think it necessary to attack the Beast of Redmond in every posting, and some of it is just nonsense, and is of no value. See I just did it... lol. -- Regards Cliff