Anton Aylward <opensuse@antonaylward.com> schreef:
On 10/06/2015 04:34 PM, Xen wrote:
So basically, yes, it is very primitive and for it to become something really useful or even slightly "adequate" from a common user point of view, it needs a lot of development time still ;-). Heh, Anton ? :P ;P.
You are being unhelpful and destructive. That things are not to your liking is no reason to spoil them for others.
How am I supposed to be in the power to spoil it for anyone? People make their own decisions and I am certainly not in the position to change anything about the base linux system, least of all... well and IF I would be in that position, I would probably be changing it for the better. No one is going to listen to me anyway unless they agree with me, and if they agree with me then they would have noticed some of this themselves. Actually it is quite a compliment to attribute to me these powers. But it seems to be quite commonsensical that you cannot spoil something that is already bad; instead pointing to the badness can also not make the badness worse. And knowing about the badness also doesn't make the system less usable than it was before these things were pointed out.... In fact turning to some bad aspect and pointing it out is the first step in improving it, and because most linux adherents refuse to do so, the system never improves. Because if you can't even LOOK AT IT and OWN it, how then can you ever IMPROVE it? If you keep staying in denial about how bad it is, it will never get better. Actually, this is most of the condition of the rest of the world. People are so in denial about how rotten the system is, that it never improves. People think they are highly advanced when they are just primitive children of god trying to get better. But because (these words are not mine) they are so ego-invested in being what they are not (highly advanced) they are not being what they are (advancing). And so they keep stuck in a refusal to look at what theye are and where they are, and hence never see where they need to go. Because they think they are already in some mode of perfection (think of e.g. the justice system and all its ludicrous and meaningless laws) they never consider that the system actually could use a bit of improvement, to say it in a very mild manner. Am I spoiling it for everyone? No the system itself routinely and destructively spoils it for everyone, constantly. That doesn't change (at least not for the worse) by me mentioning it, in fact; it is the only way it can ever get better, or at least to be more congruent with what we really are as human beings. And the same is true for Linux. Most of the Linux world tries to shut up people who try to say a few things about what doesn't work or doesn't really ....agree with what the linux people SAY it is. What Linux people say about it and what it really is is usually something quite different. I recently pointed some people to images of KDE developers. Photos, pictures. Of them going to a conference. I said, can you see these people and how depleted they are? And the guy, just some regular guy not involved with computers, immediately agreed that although they looked slightly happy, they also looked quite tired and depleted. And not just from that conference. And these same (kind of) people keep claiming how wonderful and perfect their systems and their software is. You can see it all around, a personal propaganda. I once stayed away from all TV and radio for a few months. When I got back into the world I was flabbergasted and stunned by the amount of national propaganda on national radio. This is just a western European country. And people are constantly telling each other how amazing they are (when really they're not). People from more eastern European countries who live here can tell you how that feels. That these nationals here feel they are so great. And Dutch people (this is about the Netherlands) do no realize how arrogant they are. About who they are and how great they are as a nation. It is a complete and utter arrogance and self-inflation that is based on nothing really. And other people notice. And if you come to Linux from "abroad", you too notice. I cannot make the system worse by saying these things. I can only make it better, because once you see it you can change it, if that is your wish by then. Somehow I also think you Anton have seen just a little bit of this right now. Or else you wouldn't have said these things to me. Because there is a chagrine involved with being shown the truth, and I have lost a few friends that way :-/ :(. I have had some friends who thought they were amazing (while judging me and treating me like dirt) and once I showed them that was not true, they left me. People rarely take well to being shown that after all, their image of themselves was slightly skewed. Maybe I'm just an idiot for doing it that way, but there you have it. Regards, D. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org