Hello. I'm a multi-Linux distro Multi-boot user. I have a strong preference for text based package managements systems that can be run when X isn't. Currently I have a better understanding of apt-get, pacman and equo from my Ubuntu, Arch, and Sabayon installations than I have of zypper. I've looked at man zypper on my OpenSuSE 11.3 installation. But as much as I like Linux, and have been using it for years, I still get easily confused by much of the documentation. So please bear with me if I only partially understand what I'm talking about... First question: "zypper up vs zypper patch": I gather that zypper up (without arguments) will update all installed packages to the latest available versions except when the vendor changed or some manual dependency issues are involved. Whereas zypper patch (without args) will install all needed patches (which will sometimes even remove existing software and WILL change the package vendor if needed. (I suspect that it will even downgrade a package if necessary. And that it won't touch any packages outside the scope of the patch involved...) So in general I reason that to keep a system properly up to date, both are sometimes needed. But if one is going to do both, is it better to: "zypper patch" before or after "zypper up"??? My other question is possibly more specific. I can't say I really understand the repos. In general I wouldn't make changes to my repo list unless I started to get errors... (I'm afraid I'll mess them up) But looking at the man information for "zypper dup" I gather that it's possible to upgrade an existing openSuSE 11.3 to 11.4 (or higher if applicable) with "zypper dup" (I do hope so. As I really hate having to recreate my user environment (such as keyboard shortcuts that are drastically different from the defaults etc... And having to manually add all my preferred applications like I would if I simply burned the latest iso and reinstalled) And I think I understand that it's best to first make sure the correct repos for the new version are installed and selected... But I'm almost clueless when it comes down to how to go about doing that... There's a copy of the current output of "zypper lr" at: http://pastebin.com/DVJcGgBJ Could somebody walk me through the process of setting my repos up for the dist-upgrade??? Or at least point me at a how-to that doesn't expect me to be a computer science graduate... TIA -- | ~^~ ~^~ | <?> <?> Joe (theWordy) Philbrook | ^ J(tWdy)P | \___/ <<jtwdyp@ttlc.net>> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org