-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2015-07-02 18:12, Chris Murphy wrote:
On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 8:45 AM, Carlos E. R. <> wrote:
Now you tell me how to produce an exact list of all the packages installed from, say, packman. Or rather, to produce several lists, one per repo, of all packages. Or some variant of the above.
I hate how packaging injects its deficiencies into users' lives like this, it's a real hamper on productivity. Even OS X and Windows have packages, different kinds of packaging systems (3rd party stuff for example) but none of it slaps the user in the face and demands the kind of attention and knowledge required like is necessary on Linux. It really drives me crazy. It's totally workable with default repos but as soon as I start adding 3rd party repos, it rapidly turns into a mess.
No, I can not agree. If one has to install or reinstall Windows, from scratch, not from an OEM recovery partition, one has to first install Windows, then start chasing on different web sites for the drivers for different pieces of hardware in the board or attached externally to it (say, video, sound, printer, etc), then start chasing other web sites to download the software you need (say java, flash, acrobat, vlc, firefox, moby, libreoffice). Some of the "packages" will need one to validate existing licenses or buy and pay new ones. Say, for instance, the antivirus. It can take days! In Linux, and specifically with openSUSE, you can download everything using a single program (say zypper, or yast, or apper), and from a single site; even when choosing external sites, the downloads and installations are handled by that single program. In Windows, to keep it updated, one has to again chase different sites, download and install, separately. With some applications, those applications check for updates the instant they run, and apply them, but not always in a fully automatic manner. No single application for updating it all. But anyway, this has no relation at all to the issue the OP posed. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iF4EAREIAAYFAlWVbCMACgkQja8UbcUWM1yDTQD/W3j4z7CgXdEgiaNGhri+Gk6I PLTWhsmk91Q9oiYgPOQA/igE/4uk/p/Hd8f19MyLEJt0cbWo/Mp8t6mCf2+MtTYK =4d68 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org