I guess it had to happen some day, and it seems that that day has arrived :-) . We have reached Windows standards were one thinks that it is not unusual to get a system response which states, "Press any key to continue or press any other key to quit" :-D . Overnight (my time) the stable, standard, kernel was ugraded from 3.8.4-1 to 3.8.5-1 and so in my usual way I went into a terminal and ran "zypper dup --from XX" [where XX is the kernel's repo number]. And I got the message that there are 3 problems: kernel-desktop 3.8.3-1 is not compatible..... kernel-desktop 3.8.3-1 is not compatible.... kernel-devel 3.8.3-1 is not compatible..... But wait, I have kernel 3.8.4-1 installed so why am I being told that an earlier version of the kernel is incompatible?! I check in KinfoCenter and it shows that I have 3.8.4-1 installed..... Strange.... BUT the best part of all of this is: The message which zypper gives me after telling me that kernel 3.8.3-1 is incompatible consists of 4 options which I am allowed to select in order to "solve" the problem of the incompatibility of 3.8.3-1. I can either: 1 press 1 to retain kernel 3.8.3-1 s skip [this first problem] r retry [this first problem to see if it has now gone away] c to cancel [quit] [my attempt to install the newer kernel] I don't believe what I see and decide that pressing "s" will get me to an entry which will allow me to install the latest kernel (3.8.5-1). I press "s". "No way, Jose!". I am back where I started..... "kernel - desktop 3.8.3-1 is not compatible....." :-) ---- and so on, etc etc. "Nah", I says to meself, "this has never happened before so I will go back to my installation of 12.2 and prove that THAT works fine!" "No way, Jose". 12.2 is doing exactly the same thing! But with one variation: in 12.2, KinfoCenter is showing that I have kernel 3.8.4-1 installed but the message I get from zypper is that kernel (!)3.8.2-1 is not compatible. We are living in interesting times..... :-) . Fortunately, YaST2 still works as intended [I *think* and hope] and I have kernel 3.8.5-1 installed in 12.3 and 12.2 as well :-) . BC -- Using openSUSE 12.3 x86_64 KDE 4.10.1 & kernel 3.8.5-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org