Am Samstag, 19. Juni 2010, 10:22:57 schrieb Felix Miata:
On 2010/06/19 08:40 (GMT+0200) Sven Burmeister composed:
Felix Miata wrote:
Oh how many machines, at what CPU speeds, with how much RAM?
KDE4 runs fine on older machines as well, it runs fine on netbooks. And btw the GPU or to be precise the graphics driver's capabilities are one of the major factors on how KDE4 is perceived. And yes, todays software is for recent hardware not oldtimers whose hardware is worse than a mobile phone's from the present. Use old hardware with old software or software that was meant to be for outdated hardware.
Not everyone can afford to replace working hardware. Many who can instead choose to avoid that ecologically bankrupt practice.
Hm, AFAIK today's CPUs waste less power than those from a few years ago, same for hard disks, just as one example. So ecologically old hardware might even be more harmful. Same for heavy metal usage in hardware components.
OTOH, for security reasons, not upgrading OS and software periodically is similarly poor practice. All too often "outdated" software isn't really outdated but rather mostly has unfixed bugs fixed in the subsequent version(s). The single program I spend the most time using was last released more than 13 years ago, as it has no suitable upgrade path I've been able to find, and I don't need but one (non-crucial) feature it doesn't have.
Fair enough, as I said, there is a product for every piece of hardware. If you want to use old hardware pick a product that suits those needs but don't claim that a product that works very well on recent hardware is bad just because it cares more about today and the future than more than 5 years ago. KDE ran fine on my Athlon 1400MHz, I don't even remember how old that piece of hardware was.
There are so many KDE3 features missing from even KDE 4.4 that it can hardly be considered a replacement for KDE4 no matter the assigned version number, and KDE 4 was certainly even less mature in 11.2's 4.3. Maybe in 4.5 or 4.6 it might reach feature parity, if not stability. Maybe.
First, there are so many KDE4 features missing in KDE3 that it can hardly be considered a replacement.
I've yet to find that I can recall more than one KDE4 feature without a KDE3 equivalent that I wouldn't rather live without.
Exactly, point taken, _you_. But do not generalise that.
As of the current Factory version there's still no select list for adjusting panel height. The panel still randomly rearranges itself when attempting to change its height by dragging, and defaults to an inanely short height on high resolution screens.
The default panel height is done by openSUSE AFAIK. So this is not even a KDE thing but branding.
Application launcher settings window opens still come out with window too short to fit even half its content, failing to remember its size or position from last close.
Do you mean kickoff? It does remember its size here. And what do you mean with position? It is attached to the icon. If you move the icon, it moves as well.
MC and root sessions are still missing from the default Konsole main menu.
Create them and submit them to openSUSE to include them in the package?
Konsole still defaults to a non-scalable font that fails to adapt to an appropriately larger size according to actual DPI on high resolution displays.
Does it not use whatever you tell it to use in systemsettings > fonts > fixed font?
The Klipper icon in the tray fails to identify itself on hover. There's more, but I have better things to do than catalog shortcomings of a supposedly "GA" DTE product.
Luckily I don't remember all the KDE3 bugs I got used to and thus felt "alright". I use Factory and somehow I can do my work without any annoyances. But then I do not resize my panel every other day. Sven -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org