Ok, after installing some (theoretically unrelated) KDE stuff, some Gnome stuff, and having to shutdown/reboot due to a "rolling blackout", I thought I'd try again at getting 3d working on my all-in-wonder 128 card. 3Ddiag says: === Using /usr/bin/3dinfo ************************************************************ Verifying 3D configuration based on XFree86 4 for 3D board "ATI Technologies Inc ATI Rage 128 GL AGP 2x (1002@5246)": Tests for package "xf86_glx": package ... done. package files ... done. Symbolic Links ... failed! ================================================================ 3D Hardware acceleration is not used. To use 3D Hardware acceleration the skript "/usr/X11R6/bin/switch2xf86_glx" must be executed. ================================================================ Test for correct XFree86 version ... done. Tests for XFree86 configuration: Config File /etc/X11/XF86Config ... done. Driver ... done. Color Depth ... done. Extensions ... done. Options ... done. === ... but now, without (knowingly :) fixing anything, I run gears and don't get a segfault anymore. In fact, it says I get a over 500fps, implying that I -am- using 3d h/w accelleration, contrary to what 3dDiag says. hmmm. Also note that the "Symbolic Links ... failed!" message is back. I had fixed that once before (though it didn't seem to affect anything one way or another). This is without running the "switch2xf86_glx" suggested by 3dDiag BTW. Encouraged, if a bit perplexed, I then sucessfully ran Heavy Gear 2 as well. It's playable even at 1024x768 and with all effects turned on. hmmm^2 Sadly, I'm only 2 for 3 here. Quake III doesn't segfault anymore either, but it still doesn't work right.. it hangs with a blank screen just after printing "sound initialization" in the shell it was started from. :( -John