On 07.05.2018 23:19, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Daniel Bauer <linux@daniel-bauer.com> [05-07-18 17:14]:
On 07.05.2018 21:43, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Daniel Bauer <linux@daniel-bauer.com> [05-07-18 14:53]:
On 07.05.2018 17:47, Knurpht @ openSUSE wrote:
Op maandag 7 mei 2018 17:39:29 CEST schreef Daniel Bauer:
On 06.05.2018 15:32, Koenraad Lelong wrote: > Hi, > > I'm researching for a new laptop. I think the main issue is video. Is > there a manufacturer I should avoid (NVidia/AMD) ? ...
The "double-gpu's" with nvidia ("optimus") do *not* work on opensuse. It is as disaster. Buy the cheapest box you find, opensuse doesn't deserve better. Or stay with a mobile phone.
If you think I am angry about that, you guessed absolutely right.
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Sorry, but the generalization here is nonsense. I did install ( recently, on a couple of recent laptops with dual grahics ) and albeit needing some tinkering, it works fine. Unless my customers do not report non-functional laptops, which I doubt.
Ok, my rant was hard, I know. But having my laptop with non-working nvidia is nonsense, too. Expensive nonsense. The change - what ever it was - that made switching from intel to nvidia impossible, causes me great problems every single day. It's an important problem for me and I lost nerves because right now I had to work some hours with this half-baked intel solution. Things that would have gone much faster if optimus worked.
I was searching for help on this list. I have filed a bug report with all details I could imagine to be helpful. ( https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1088287 ) I was searching google for many hours, trying what ever I could find.
No, nvidia does not run on my laptop.
If you (and Peter) say it works on your laptops I would be *extremely* interested on how to achieve this, too.
And yes, I know one should not empty it's "overcooking pan" on this list. I always try to avoid it. But as this affects me so much, I just couldn't. Sorry.
not an excuse. you failed to do your due diligence when selecting the laptop for your chosen operating environment. so your frustration with opensuse is really self inflicted.
As I do not have the ability to look into the future I could not know that something that was working perfectly suddenly would stop working.
When I bought the laptop it *did* work.
with leap 15.x?
no, with 42.1
So my frustration comes out of my lack of knowing what functions will be cut off in future. Must I be happy if the mouse still works after the next "upgrade", or will I be an idiot to rely on something that may not work anymore in future?
install 42.3 as it does work there.
No, it does not. Not at all. 42.3 is what I have installed.
you are only making excuses for not taking care. you do have a choice of which version of openSUSE (which you prefer not to use, but fail to move away) you install. and perhaps the problem you refer will be solved at some point in the future. I would bet so.
you *can* solve your problem
If I could I would. or buy equipment that works with your
choices.
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