I got the exact same behaviour when upgrading from beta 2 to 3 and from beta 3 to 4. The only way I ever got kde working properly was from a fresh install where no previous versions of kde existed. This was after removing .kderc and .kde. I don't believe in magic, so I assume there is a rational explanation. Nonetheless, my experience has shown that the only time kde is a "good pc citizen" is from a fresh install. Perhaps someone else on the list will have some insight into this, reinstalling linux just to get the most current beta of kde functioning isn't practical. Kristian Farren wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>Hi, I need some help with KDE. I currently have KDE beta 3 installed on my <BR>SuSE 5.2, I wanted to upgrade to beta 4 so I downloaded the rpms from the <BR>Suse <BR>site installed them via Yast, but when I select select KDE as my window <BR>manager <BR>it loads & looks fine, but is completely frozen, the mouse can move around <BR>and I can <BR>move & close the 1 xtem window but none of the KDE menus will pop-up. <BR>So far I've tried <BR>Uninstalling KDE then reinstalling it new (beta 4) <BR>Uninstalling KDE deleting the directory on /opt/kde <BR>Upgrading the qt libraries to 1.33 (although I believe that they are <BR>already <BR>included in the Suse rpms) <BR>In all cases the result is the same, a KDE desk top were nothing works, <BR>Fortunately <BR>I can reinstall beta 3 that is the Suse cd and everything works fine (in <BR>beta3) <BR>Any suggestions? Kristian Farren -- <BR>To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with <BR>this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e</BLOCKQUOTE> <PRE>-- -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GCS d--- s++:++ a32 c++ UL++ P+ L++>+++ E--- W+>++ N- o-- K- w O? M-- V- PS+ PE+ Y-- PGP- t+ 5+ X+ R tv+ b++ DI+ D+++ G e h+ r* y+ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------</PRE>