On Sat, 31 May 2014 18:02:52 -0700 Linda Walsh <suse@tlinx.org> wrote:
Felix Miata wrote:
WRT openSUSE: The fence is down. The barn is empty. For all practical purposes the herd has been lost. If you don't want a system dependent on systemd...
Well, that's until it goes a bit too far.
It's not gone too far? It's "only" to boot faster, that's all, right?
I noticed a fork of udev that doesn't require systemd. Seems more people are complaining as time goes on. Also saw some stepped on toes over in samba land.
oh no! Sanity! Kill it! Quick!
I'm sure the kernel folk are as happy as pie -- as systemd aims to become the arbitrator of system security.
One Ring To Rule Them All...And In The Darkness Bind Them.
Does anyone else think some of the systemd folks might be on MS's payroll under the table?
Have to seriously wonder. And how many other devs, coders and apps maintainers as well. The changes to Linux/Gnu based systems are steering it toward being more and more like windoze and farther and farther away from *nix. systemd seems to be doing unexpected things, such as starting services that have not been configured to start in standard sysVinit. Worse, it is not telling anyone or logging it. It is taking control of the system from the user and placing it in the hands of someone somewhere else who thinks they know better how the user should or wants to manage the system. Centralized control, just like windoze. This is so incredibly microsoft-ish and anti-Free Software I have difficulty believing that it is actually happening but I have to go with what I see. It is creeping into the kernel and Linus Torvalds seems quite OK with it. I don't understand this at all. Or like it. Or trust it. sytemd should just fork off, leave the kernel alone and become the microsoft-ish kernel it evidently aspires to. Please tell me that someone else has noticed the trend toward being more like windoze with all the information sharing between apps using udev and apps like gedit now depending on centralized data exchange and sharing via udev. These are becoming increasingly mandatory and for what reason? jd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org