On Wed, 2010-04-28 at 09:55 +0200, Gudmund Areskoug wrote:
Peter Nikolic skrev:
It is all very well saying the stuff is out there BUT there are a surprisingly large number of people out here in the Real world that have very IFFY slow and downright internet connections , what this has to do with the argument IS the those people NEED the choices ON the DISC not on the other end of some connection that may or may not complete the transaction without barfing the systems up for you so the long and the short of it all is WE NEED CHOICE item ,the more the better Amen to that. I've been in enough situations where the distro would simply not have worked at all if I hadn't had different choices.
I can't recall having been in such a situation within the last decade.
I've been in enough situations where even the fairly large amount of apps to choose from in a distro like openSUSE wasn't enough to make it work.
Nah, a default installation of GNOME on a desktop provides everything I need, and more, the great majority of the time. Everything else is just a one-click-install (Banshee, Monodevelop; but that is just for more current versions) or "zypper in ..." away. The only app I've had to download a package for manually is RabbitMQ (which included finding the openSUSE erlang repo). But really.... I don't expect an AMQ service to be included by default.
Just start with the none in the selection of wireless network drivers already on the disk not working, in a place where there is nowhere to plug a network cable (or simply no Internet available at all)...
The majority of devices I've installed on, for years, including laptops, have worked out-of-the-box. Including wireless. Thanks openSUSE [you really buy your brown-themed neighbor to shame in that regard; and you have less annoying swagger].
One might say we don't need more choice, but better alternatives. Those
Which has nothing to do with package management.
better alternatives will simply not substantiate without an ecosystem of many different partly or even completely overlapping apps reaching the public.
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