On 04/13/2013 06:39 PM, Linda Walsh pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
Anton Aylward wrote:
Linda Walsh said the following on 04/13/2013 10:39 AM:
Anton Aylward wrote:
Linda Walsh said the following on 04/12/2013 10:19 PM:
Linda, please DO NOT reply to both me and the list. I do read the list :-)
Thanks.
I don't add your name. Your email headers say that to respond to "all", it needs to send a copy to both you and the list. The email software doesn't know that you are on the list. You do (or the list does). At both places where this knowledge is available (i.e. in your email client) and in the list software), their is an option to sent the "Reply-To:" field in the email.
This list doesn't set any intelligent (and seemingly wanted) defaults for email to the list and puts the onus on the users. But that requires users change their email software to automatically put a Reply-To field in when responding to this specific list.
Depending on your list software, this can be done in multiple ways.
You, like me, have a domain, and appear to setup "per-list" or "per-company" addresses to aid in sorting incoming email -- something I've done for 13 years. People used to think that was odd, but now is becoming common-place enough that I almost never get questioned about it.
Anyway -- with 2 different addresses in the from headers, it has been standard to use Reply to *only* go to the person, or Reply-All to go to the person and everyone in CC list -- this is because my email software doesn't know if you are on the list or not -- some people on this list have set the "Reply-To:" field to point only at the list. That automatically tells client-email software the *default* reply-to address.
that to respond to all, it needed to reply to both. You can set your email software to put SuSE Linux <opensuse@opensuse.org>
in the "Reply-To:" field -- it's another field just like To, Cc: and their newgroup counterparts Newsgroup: and Followup-To: that can be set on a per-list basis in most email software. See http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/1962/foldersettings1.jpg for an example of this in firefox.
The Reply-To field takes precedence over the 'From' field when looking for who to send responses to. So when I hit reply it goes to the list-only. If I hit reply-All, the email software sees still sees the 'reply-to' and 'cc' are the same address, and only sends 1 copy. To send a copy to you and the list, I would have to type in your email address manually, which I have to want to do *intentionally*.
Since you have control over where responses go, I ask that you use that control and stop asking others to NOT do as your emailer is telling them to.
If you change everyone else to not follow the standards then you break features for other people.
Example: If you send email to the list AND to the person, one email may go into their "list folder" (that, by itself, gives no hint that the email was sent "in response" to something they wrote). Vs. if it is a response to something they said, it would be polite if there was a way to let them know that someone replied, directly, to something they wrote.
That's why it allows for 2 copies -- the one copy goes to a list folder, but the one sent to them directly, goes directly to them and, filtered appropriately, goes into a "direct" or "personal" response folder.
That folder is *generally* read before list email, as it is obvious the person said something directly to the poster in response to one of their posts (vs. a general list email that isn't a direct response).
So please -- if you only want the 1 copy, set your email software to put in 'Reply-To:' <listemail> and any standards-following email client will automatically ONLY put in the list address when they 'hit' reply OR reply to all -- i.e. they will have to type your address in manually for you to get a 2nd, unwanted copy -- and how likely is that? :-)
BULL SHIT Linda. Use the fracken "Reply List" button that Thunderbird offers you. YOU have been on this list long enough to know the list preferences, use them. -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org