The nicest thing of all is, no matter how much you hate systemd, you're getting it sooner or later too. :) PS: I feel religiously offended by Dirk Gently as he claims some persons are going to an imaginary evil afterlife full of pain. Mailing list etiquette? 2014-06-01 22:13 GMT+02:00 Dirk Gently <dirk.gently00@gmail.com>:
Linda Walsh wrote:
Felix Miata wrote:
WRT openSUSE: The fence is down. The barn is empty. For all practical purposes the herd has been lost. If you don't want a system dependent on systemd...
--- Well, that's until it goes a bit too far.
Remember, it's just something to help help your system boot faster by doing parallel boot. And now? Seems like it fell a bit short of that initial goal, as well. If you already booted direct from HD and used parallel boot in the run scripts, there seems to be a slowdown. What I don't understand is why people keep converting more to systemd, when it didn't make good on its initial promises.
More importantly, shaving a couple of seconds off of boot time is really sooooper-dooooper important, why, exactly?
Systemd is doing the equivalent of fouling up the reliability of all the critical control systems of an automobile, all for the stated goal of gettin the engine to start in 3 seconds rather than 4.
The rsultant calamities would wind up in court as criminal malfeasance.
Nobody has yet explained WHY saving a couple of seconds at boot time is ooh soooo important (And I remember the days when unix systems with only 1 MB of memory took 15 minutes to boot up) that it justifies fucking up the entire concept of run-levels, and using well-debugged shell-scripts rather than some pulled-out-of-the-ass custom scripting language which is NOT anywhere close to fully debugged, and config files full of XML crud.
I think we both agree that the net effect of the trade-offs is not beneficial to users or system administrators, but it sure does stroke the ego of Lennert Poettering and Kay Sievert. There's going to be a special place in hell for those two.
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