ATI graphics users, I seem to have lost "direct rendering" capabilities from my Radeon 7200 card. Checked all the usual things, modules are there, using Mantel's 2.4.21-4 athlon kernel, no recent changes to graphics setup or files. I have ran sax2 to make sure that went well and it did. Everything is activated that should be running. The /etc/sysconfig/3Ddiag has switch2xf86_glx running. Running glxinfo shows no direct rendering and gears are slow and Tux Racer is slow. The 7200 is about the same as the 7000 card, so it doesn't fit into the "need an ATI binary driver" to get the 3d working. In fact, I believe the standard XFree86 4.3 supports 3d for the Radeons up to the 9200, but beyond that you need the binary drivers. Any thoughts anyone? Has someone run across this lately as well? Pat ================== Ok, sports fans, for those following this thread, I have found the problem and now have 3D and direct rendering working again! Seems the problem was Mantel's kernel build (2.4.21-4). It apparently does not have the ATI modules needed to do 3D or work with the present XFree86 4.3. Going back to SuSE's last 2.4.20-86 kernel release fixed the bug and brought back the 3D. Thanks for everyone that put a thought into the problem and hope this helps others. Pat -- --- KMail v1.5.3 --- SuSE Linux Pro v8.2 --- Registered Linux User #225206 On any other day, that might seem strange...