Hi all, Most of the time I administer Redhat server. However, recently I spend more and more time exploring Opensuse. There's one thing that I don't get it yet regarding sgid and umask in Opensuse. In RH, when I create a directory say 'test', chmod it 3770. It will look like this: drwxrws--T 2 root sales 4096 2007-05-23 08:16 test Then, when I create a file inside the directory, it will have permission like this: -rw-rw-r-- 1 geecko sales 4 2007-05-23 09:14 filegeecko (notice the rw-rw-r--). I do the same in Opensuse. But, the file created in the directory have the permission: -rw-r--r-- 1 geecko sales 4 2007-05-23 09:17 filegeecko (notice the rw-r--r--). This permission makes other user in sales group cannot edit geecko's file. User geecko has to specifically set the permission to 664 on the file. How do I achive the default umask inhereted from the parent directory? I read some suggestions from google to adjust the global default umask, but I think it's a bit risky, or is it the only way? Thank you very much. -- Fajar Priyanto | Reg'd Linux User #327841 | Linux tutorial http://linux2.arinet.org 9:32am up 1:25, 2.6.18.2-34-default GNU/Linux Let's use OpenOffice. http://www.openoffice.org