Anton Aylward wrote:
Per Jessen said the following on 02/28/2013 01:04 PM:
Anton Aylward wrote:
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That sounds pretty limited and crippled compare to what's available for Linux.
It isn't. The description above is very poor and/or biased.
Perhaps you'd care to amplify that -- or even correct the Wikipedia article.
I would if I could. It's difficult - partially because I am biased, mostly because one has to experience both to really understand. And that goes for either side. There is a lot of "religion" in it. There is also the little matter of two completely different environments - a IBM 3270 terminal vs the DEC VT100 (essentially). The former is screen based, the latter is line based.
VI has line numbering, can work on blocks of lines, and has a command line option. There are also programming plug-ins available.
I wonder why Duaine wants to regress?
He doesn't want to regress, he wants to be effective. He is used to working with those editors and feel that they are way superior to vi et al. I completely understand where he is coming from. I have yet to reach the same level of fluency with vi that I had/have with the ISPF editor or the LPEX ditto.
Ah, that I can understand. My fingers know VI. All these editors that require me to take my hands off the keyboard and fiddle with mouse and menus and icons - and lets face it, icons range from incomprehensible to 'culturally specific'[1].
Very true. I have written a lot of code in ISPF and later xedit. Around the same time I started working with LPEX, which was a big step forward at the time (mid-90s) (syntax highlighting for starters). When I decided to switch to Linux, VI was my weapon of choice, but it took me six-seven years to get really effective with it. I did have a short affair with Eclipse in between, and today when I need to write C, I still pick kate. One funny thing is - the standard IBM line length is 80 chars, which goes all the way back to punchcards. I have not worked with punchcards myself, but IBM JCL is nothing but "screen" punchcards. However, think about how often we limit ourselves to 80 chars - in email, in code, everywhere. If it wasn't for punchcards, we wouldn't have a continuation character. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (0.1°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - free DNS hosting, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org