On 2020-02-07 11:57 p.m., Basil Chupin wrote:
Why 5, Patrick? There is the cover and then there are pages numbered i to iii. So does one add another page to indicate the start to be (actual) page 1?
Your mistake lies in your textual expression of what you want done. Above you said "actual page 1". What you meant was the page that was *labelled* "1". When I create a document with a tool like LibreOffice I can decide that I want the first page of my document to be labelled "First" , "Second" .. if I so wish, rather than numbers or Roman numerals. I can even select Greek or Turkish or Russian numbering! more to the point, I can over-ride it arbitrarily at any point. It is just a label. Hopefully it follows some sort of convention about sequencing. Hhaving stuff in a book BEFORE the "page 1" of the written content is perfectly normal. The plate, dedication, copyright information, perhaps even a short note by the author. I'm reading Ken Follett's "Pillars of Earth" at the moment and his "in italics" frontispiece on how he came to write the book runs to 7 pages. There's then a blank page so that the book, proper, "begins" with a quotation from a comentary on the Doomsday book on the left and the start of the text of the story on the right. This is to make it visually balanced. Thus the start of the story, the logical page "1", labelled so and referred to as such in the index, which also precedes that "author's note" is nearly 20 pages from the cover. As far s I've read. the book is linear in time, but that doesn't have to be so. I've read books where there are inserts, sometimes whole chapters of "backstory", perhaps flashbacks, perhaps about the characters growing up. I suppose if the pages were "by date" it would make sense to the narration, help you understand the sequence of events, but would be confusing as it would have redundancies: there would be duplication of the page-date when describing what happened to two or more characters quite separately. While I suppose some avant-garde novelist might try this it IS unconventional but does emphasise my point that the pages are labels and the first page of a 'document' need not be labelled "1". more to the point: YOU may start writing with the defaults that label the first page of you writing "1", but then at a later date an index gets generated and inserted BEFORE the first page of your writing. The first page of your writing is now the 5th page of the document. In fact LO has the option to omit the page number from the first page (or any page, not I come to look at edit style) of your witting. Now I'm wondering ... Can I do "Chapter 4, page 5" style? Can I do "5.1" style? See file:///usr/share/libreoffice/help/en-US/text/swriter/guide/pagenumbers.html?DbPAR=WRITER#bm_id5918759 Start with a defined page number <META> Out of "Alice" many programming texts go to lengths to explain that an object is not it's name, it may not even be 'refereed to' by it's name, and in fact it may have a 'label' quite different from both that it is named and how it is called. As one great programmer comment, you may call by name or call by value. A name is arbitrary. A label is equally arbitrary. That has been the basis of a few thriller novels. </META> -- A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org