A while back you had a problem during bootup with modprobe errors on sound stuff, and the usbmgr failure. Could you tell me how you finally got this sorted out? I have run into this problem again. I reinstalled 7.1 and chose only the 2.4 kernel. After installation I built a new kernel to try & get my joystick working. The "stock" /lib/modules/2.4xxx directory did not have many modules in it - mostly sound related stuff. I changed the processor choice to AMD, made sure that sound was included in the kernel, along w/ picking my specific soundcard, etc. Built the kernel no problem, ran make modules, make bzlilo and make modules_install. All seemed to go just fine. Then I rebooted. It couldn't find the sound modules, couldn't find Ipchains (I probably missed that in the config), and the usbmgr failed (I had turned on usb since I have a usb scanner). I looked in /lib/modules and found a new 2.4 directory - again without much in it....??? So I tried copying the original .config to /usr/src/linux and made only a couple minor changes. While running xconfig I noticed that the proper joystick modules were already chosen as modules. I thought this was odd since the only modules I could find in the "stock" /lib/modules/2.4xxx directory were soundcard related. In fact there was a LOT of stuff chosen as modules in the original .config. Why don't any of these show up in lib/modules/2.4xxx? Anyway, after my few minor changes I rebuilt the kernel, etc. Still the same problem. What is the deal w/ kernels & modules in 7.1? This used to be so simple.... When you do a fresh install & choose 1 kernel, you get three kernel choices in the boot menu - all three booting the same kernel image. Why? This is confusing. TIA, Mike ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cleary_Mike@emc.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- "We are born wet, naked and hungry......then things get worse."