Hi, I can no longer send email "normally", I get: status=deferred (connect to mail.gmx.es[212.227.17.174]:25: Connection timed out) on all mail accounts. My guess that suddenly Bell figured out it should block me or port 25 outgoing. Stupid! :-( So I told Thunderbird to send without using postfix, and that apparently works (if you see this, it works), but I want to keep using postfix. TH is using port 465, SSL/TLS, and password. So, in "/etc/postfix/sender_relayhost" I change this entry: robin.listas@gmx.es [mail.gmx.es] to this: robin.listas@gmx.es [mail.gmx.es]:submission And then I get this on the log: #<2.6> 2018-09-19 19:55:09 Legolas postfix 2044 - - SMTPS wrappermode (TCP port 465) requires setting "smtp_tls_wrappermode = yes", and "smtp_tls_security_level = encrypt" (or stronger) So I do what it says, then I get this on the log: <2.6> 2018-09-19 20:21:50 Legolas postfix 4065 - - C9A36E309E: to=<opensuse@opensuse.org>, relay=mail.gmx.es[212.227.17.174]:587, delay=13119, delays=13118/0.5/0.47/0, dsn=4.7.5, status=deferred (Cannot start TLS: handshake failure) <2.6> 2018-09-19 20:21:50 Legolas postfix 4068 - - SSL_connect error to mail.gmx.es[212.227.17.184]:587: -1 <2.4> 2018-09-19 20:21:50 Legolas postfix 4068 - - warning: TLS library problem: error:1408F10B:SSL routines:ssl3_get_record:wrong version number:ssl/record/ssl3_record.c:252: <2.6> 2018-09-19 20:21:50 Legolas postfix 4068 - - 8AEF1E309F: to=<opensuse@opensuse.org>, relay=mail.gmx.es[212.227.17.184]:587, delay=12654, delays=12653/0.7/0.45/0, dsn=4.7.5, status=deferred (Cannot start TLS: handshake failure) So what can I do? it seems a bug in a library, right? -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 15.0 (Legolas)) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org