2012. augusztus 5. 22:17 napon Lars Müller <lmuelle@suse.com> írta:
On Sun, Aug 05, 2012 at 09:28:12PM +0200, Istvan Gabor wrote:
2012. augusztus 5. 16:45 napon Lars Müller <lmuelle@suse.com> írta:
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We had this discussion before. And Marcus Meissner showed you a way to achieve the same with much less information provided.
Could you please point me to the link where it can be found? The opensuse list search function does not work.
Sorry, I've not found it. Please check the archive. I believe it was in a thread you and Marcus Meissner had been involved. Either on this or on the openSUSE-factory list.
Thanks. I checked back until January both this and factory lists and could not find any relevant thread by subject except of one which is probably not the one you meant: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2012-07/msg00809.html In this message Marcus Meissner writes: "I assigned it someone else. You could look through the maintainers in the "games" repository where neverball lives and mail them. Or this list. Or you can fix this yourself via OBs collaboration and do a submitrequest:)" That is nothing specific.
It's an approach which requires much, much less details than the default for openSUSE defect reports.
We as developers are not your bugzilla proxy. I understand this. But still should be way for problems which are not entered into bugzilla toward developers. I am sure I am not the only one who reports bugs on a mailing list with pleasure but is reluctant to register to novell (etc) and fill in bugzilla like forms.
As soon as any of us would file the report all further questions would have to be passed back to this list.
I don't understand what this sentence means.
That's no fun. This is a game where both parties have to be involved.
Well, does this mean, if an end user won't make a bug report, the issue won't be fixed at all, even if it is obviously a serious one? Because the developers are not interested in fixing it?
As a developer I'll care and fix issues I'm aware of. And the tool to get aware of an issue is bugzilla.
According to the info below you are responsible of samba service at openSUSE. This is from /etc/init.d/smb file on openSUSE 12.1: #! /bin/sh # Copyright (c) 2002-2004 SuSE Linux AG, Nuernberg, Germany. # All rights reserved. # # Author: Lars Mueller <lmuelle@suse.de> And you are aware of the problem. Still you are saying I have to make that bug report. This is burocracy.
Not all SUSE developers are reading all openSUSE lists. In particular those with a bad noise to content ratio. But we all use bugzilla. Bugzilla is the tool the project uses.
Bugzilla isn't perfect. But till now we've not seen an alternative which fits better to all our needs.
I repeat what I said: you can not expect end users to register to novel and bugzilla and fill bug reporting forms. What you can expect is provide a simple system where/through which they can report problems. In my opinion that is the way it should be. Thanks for your reply. Istvan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org