On Tuesday 05 February 2008 15:30, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
you're right that the box is smaller than before but the manuals you're asking for are available as PDFs on the media. ...
They need to be presented to the new user at first boot up.
Well, no. Not only no, but "hell no!". ;-) That's the way we got all that annoying stuff you have to click away during installation and then at your first login. It always started like that: Some people not finding it right away (but OTOH also not giving it a real hard try). Look at what stuff we already have that nobody (well, make that "very few", but usually "very few who have the authority to make us") wants to see. Let's take a small tour through current and recent releases we made - just a very random selection: - License agreement at installation start. Yuck. But the lawyers demand it. There must be some old lady who once in the course of this universe couldn't find it right away and then died of sorrow or desparation. ;-) - Media check. Come on. My CD / DVD buring software can do that a lot better, and at a much more appropriate time. - Time zone selection. Interesting for users who happen to install in Thai language on their way to Vladivostok, but just annoying for all those people whose location we can easily deduce from the language they selected. German, Czech, Swedish - time zone unique (unless they are on that train to Vladivostok, too). English is harder, agreed. Some other languages, too. But for most languages there is little question. - Release notes. Well, I might be interested in them after I have my installation done and everything works as expected (including the good MPlayer etc.), but certainly not bang in the middle of all that. - YaST control center. Yes, it's been a while, but we were made to force-press that thing upon the poor user at the end of the installation, too. It was broken for a long time, yet nobody complained. Must be quite some crowd out there using that thing. ;-) - Novell customer center (during registration). Well, marketing. - SuSE greeter. Do we still have it? Well, I guess so - when you don't recycle an existing home directory. It also used to have no window title bar etc. so you really had to hunt that icon down to get rid of it. Gah, gimme a break. - KDE tip windows on startup on every program. WTF?! When I open a "konsole" (the KDE xterm) I don't want to be bothered with that stuff. I want to issue some commands, and probably not just for fun. Get that thing out of my face. And now let's think again about documentation or anything else being force-pressed upon the user... ;-) CU -- Stefan Hundhammer <sh@suse.de> Penguin by conviction. YaST2 Development SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Nürnberg, Germany -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org