On 2023-02-17 23:08, Robert Schweikert wrote:
Hi,
On 2/17/23 16:43, bent fender wrote:
Fri, 17 Feb 2023 15:25:23 -0500 Robert Schweikert <rjschwei@suse.com> :
On 2/17/23 12:57, Lukáš Krejza wrote:
Dne pátek 17. února 2023 18:55:16 CET, Andrei Borzenkov napsal(a):
On 17.02.2023 20:39, Lukáš Krejza wrote:
a post and a poll would be better :D
What would do better is actually doing something, not posting and polling.
Do something just for the sake of change?
Nothing is being done for the sake of change.
The only change that should come is what users ask for
This isn't really a Suse exclusive but I could list a dozen more recent 'features' that not only no user majority has asked for but I suspect that next to no user has asked for at all, yet they are there, WHY?
It is a community project, changes are driven by developers. The changes that are driven by contributors that also happen to work for SUSE have a very high chance to being driven by customers or partners of SUSE.
Those that are consumers of the results have influence by creating bug reports or feature requests.
Who or what is driving development, user needs or someone else's needs?
Users are a very diverse group. The need of one group may not overlap with the group of another. Catering to as many groups as possible while keeping the effort to a reasonable level is part of the idea behind ALP.
Is any kind of 'industry' need ever justifiable as any sort of direction? My answer is a total absolute NO, the ONLY need to cater to is end user need.
Define "end user"? If your definition is the group of people that consume Leap as a desktop or server environment, then that definition is quite narrow in scope.
Anyway, your opinion is of course equally valid to the opinion of someone else that thinks the definition of "end user" is much broader and includes companies that ultimately pay for a large chunk of resources that make openSUSE possible.
It's industry that has to adapt, the tail is not to wag the dog. Who ever asked for the cloud, for interface commonality with smart phones, the vanishing menu bars, etc? No one that I know of. When something stops catering to MY needs I chuck it.
That is of course your prerogative. No one forces you to use openSUSE Leap and if there is a distribution that better meets your needs then so be it.
I see a disconnect with the community in all this. :-( -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.4 x86_64 at Telcontar)