Hi, I decided to take the plunge and try upgrading to KDE 3.0.1 through the YOU patch. (I'm trying this on a default 8.0 install w/ office that I have not messed with too much.) It downloads several patches from the SuSE ftp site and once it finishes a pop-up box appears saying "No patch will be installed" and all I can do is press OK and YOU stops. If I try it again, the same thing happens except the downloading of the patches goes much faster, as if it realizes I've already downloaded the patches. Then the pop-up box shows up saying No patch will be installed. What gives? (The only thing I can think of is that the first time I was waiting on the patches to download I left the computer unattended a while and it could have timed out waiting on me to click Next. Why would this matter? The patches are there the "Show description" pop-up still shows all the old KDE stuff is installed.) -- Brian Support EFF! http://www.eff.org/ They're defending YOUR rights online.