On 11/26/20 2:58 AM, Felix Miata wrote:
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Dave Howorth composed on 2020-11-25 15:03 (UTC):
I think most people have opinions more like mine which is that hyperkitty is gross, over the top nonsense. I warned various openSUSE list readers at least once each in 2017, 2018 & 2019 about the horror of HyperKitty. I don't see any way to post direct links on any HyperKitty page, nor include even the date of the post, or even find a way to capture the datestamp to include here, which the old archive smartly includes as part of the URL: <https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/list/project@lists.opensuse.org/thread/VO6JDGFXQ4OEXGKGLXAUJFVKJ4KVWOBS/> <https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-project/2019-12/msg00047.html> <https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2018-07/msg00231.html> <https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2017-06/msg00550.html>
The 54k attachment is a 'convert -quality 20' of a .png screenshot of the inane presentation of my 2019 warning (the first URL above). If the attachment gets scrubbed, see it at <http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Suse/osHyperKitty202011.jpg> (if Zito hasn't broken my website again}. Same post (second link above) in the old archive can be see at <http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Suse/osMailman202011.jpg>.
Since all the old list archives apparently haven't been switched yet, I hope we can keep them. They're completely usable, diametrically opposite of HyperKitty.
Hiperkitty, or "Hello Kitty" or whatever it is -- is by far the worst web reader for e-mail bar none. You would think whoever was in charge of this effort may have asked the community here for some feed back to prevent just this type of debacle. There are so many good readers out there, and no nobody needs the stupid social media buttons and "Likes" and other distractions on a technical list. It is another bewildering "Kids with Crayons episode where there was apparently no parental supervision being provided (reminds me of the KDE 4.0.4a "Release" as the default desktop with 11.0. Just a bit of "Ask the Community for Feedback" goes a long way to help avoid these train wrecks. How much experience reading lists on line did the person in charge have? The precatory, "I can find a few lists out there, but never really read them that way" level of knowledge? It certainly doesn't seem to be coming from somebody that has many even a "Casual" or at least "Limited" use of such things. It doesn't take much more than a concise listing and the options to sort-threaded and an options to see the thread sorted ascending or descending. All do that very well, except --- the "Hello Kitty" mailer that was just dumped on the community. Let's find another -- quickly... -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.