hey, i just upgraded a toshiba laptop that i have run 6.4, 7.1, & 7.2 on, to 8.1..................(just to see what all the fuss was), wow! what a change.........install was a chore as this machine won't boot from cd, i went through a whole pile of floppys before i found a few good ones to create boot and modules disks.........anyway my problem is during install, via NFS the pcmcia card worked fine - but after rebooting, the cards don't seem to be working or the card services are not starting during boot............the whole sysconfig thing is new to me and so is this "hotplug" stuff, can anyone explain how pcmcia card services are supposed to start now? i don't see anything in yast hardware about pcmcia, i did find and set up the network card, which BTW, i don't think i should have had to do AGAIN.............. TIA, -don -- ------------------------------- proud linux user since kernel 1.1.54