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On 10/22/2014 02:59 PM, Banga Gong wrote:
Ken Schneider - openSUSE wrote:
On 10/22/2014 03:40 AM, Sam M. wrote:
I came across this article below, and it looks like the System D implementation on Debian has caused a great deal of havoc and alienation amongst devs and admins, so a fork is potentially in the works. I was wondering if a similar interest is also present in the openSUSE community? Is openSUSE going to become one huge monolith where practically every package is dependent on each other, and, the user is forced into a corner? For instance, that atrocious Baloo virus that runs by default on a new KDE install will start indexing before you allowed it to, and can't be removed because it's dependent on so many things. Part of it can be removed (last I checked), but not the entire thing. If things are going to become one big monolith, which obviously is contrary to the Unix philosophy, why not just run Windows?
It seems like more people than not don't like System D, and Lennart Poettering's attitude has been described as rude, egocentric and childish which doesn't help the case. PulseAudio was also developed by Pottering, and I don't like it at all as it's just one more broken piece of software on top of the already overly complex Linux sound stack. I've had problems with it, and it has provided me zero benefit. Anyway, I think the System D debate here should continue
Not a problem. There is a "Soapbox" forum for these types of discussions available, take it there.
Wrong .
Ontopic discussionS are offtopic on the offtopic list.
This is on topic.
At first, you marginalized objectors by saying that we should have the discussion later...
No, I said no such thing. Re-read the thread.
now you're complaining that objections weren't talked about sooner. and saying that because we didn't discuss it sooner, we should shut the fuck up.
Again, I said no such thing. I asked that this soapbox discussion be taken to an appropriate forum: http://forums.opensuse.org/forumdisplay.php/687-Soapbox
How about, instead, you stop being a censorious bastard?
Again, I am not censoring anything. And people have been asked by the list admin not to use derogatory language or name calling on this list. If you have a specific problem please let us know which version of openSUSE you are using and what the problem is so that we can try and help you get your system running. -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org