Not to fan an old flame I found an interesting problem I installed as KDE3 alone. Was able to select and manipulate screensavers. Then I installed KDE4 alongside KDE3 to see what I thought of KDE4. Screensavers are selectable in KDE4. KDE3, screensavers can no longer be selected/manipulated. The screen for it is there, just no screensavers. Uninstall the entire KDE4 pattern. Obviously can't do any KDE4 stuff and the KDE3 screensavers are still blank but they do start and display random screen savers. I'm thinking this is a symptom of a whole nother problem I've been fighting. kbluetooth does seem is recognize that there is a bluetooth adapter installed. kbluetooth4 does, although it's impossible to pair with either. For grins, I committed heresy... I booted a live kubuntu to assure the hardware was working and was able to pair perfectly. I don't think this is an upstream problem, unless opensuse used bleeding edge stuff to release. Anyway, any thoughts on how to resolve this? Bruce -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org