In my country, to connect to the internet one must have both an infrastructure provider (ADSL or cable) _and_ an ISP (outside IP address). To connect, one uses an L2TP 'dialer' to 'dial into' the infrastructure provider. Of course, there is no Linux dialer so Linux users are either using an old, unmaintained script from a defunct ISP or using a router (most consumer grade routers can dial L2TP connections). Today, after hours of problems with the infrastructure provider, she authorized me to connect without a dialer. She even had me on hold for 15 minutes while she got permission from the ISP to let me connect without a dialer. I do not know what was the original problem that prevented me from connecting today, but with this no-dialer workaround my 'net connection is faster (as a side-efect, apparently). Does anybody have any idea what is going on here? All the info that I can find online suggests that in other countries there is only an ISP, who provides the infrastructure himself. Where can I find information on the system that I described, so that I can better understand it? Thanks. For the details, my country is Israel, my infrastructure is Hot (cable connection), and my ISP is Bezeq Benleumi. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü