On Monday 15 Aug 2005 20:22, Michael W Cocke wrote:
On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 17:19:29 +0200, you wrote:
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Michael W Cocke <cocke@catherders.com> [13 Aug 2005 11:35:28 -0400]:
That's a matter of opinion - I call it a bug, and a huge one.
Where is the bug? It has always been so that the kernel assigns network device names in the order that the devices appear. Before we used hotplugging for network devices, you could influence that by loading the drivers in a fixed order, but that didn't help you if you had multiple network cards of the same type.
Just because it's always been possible to screw it up doesn't mean it's not a bug.
It's a valid and flexible solution a problem. Formerly, there was a "bug" which meant you couldn't change, add or rearrange the cards (network or otherwise) without potentially having your network interfaces change identities. This makes upgrading and mainenance more problematical. Now, because the adminstrator can assign the interface based on various criteria (like MAC address or text name) you can be sure that changing a card won't futz your setup.
Interface #1 should always be interface #1.
Just for example, allowing the internal and external network interfaces to exchange places randomly on a firewall is either a major security hole or a networking failure looking for a place to happen - depending on your point of view.
Indeed, but it's NOT a bug in the system, it is the admin's responsibility to use the tools correctly to ensure the security of the setup.
And pointing out how easy it is to work around just shows that it would have been very simple to correct the bug.
Just because you don't like the way it works does not make it a bug. It is the chosen and implemented method. Dylan
Mike-
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