On 06/12/2018 04:20 PM, Richard Brown wrote:
On 12 June 2018 at 09:58, George from the tribe <tech@reachthetribes.org> wrote:
Yes I totally agree. And I might also mention this. Sometimes forums and/or lists such as this help a user get a temporary fix to a problem working while waiting for the bug report to run its course and have the real fix implemented. I have had the experience in which I needed to get something working NOW, and I put in a bug report to get it going, but then the list or forum gave me an idea that would help me work around the problem until the bug fix was in. That way I was able to continue working, then once the fix was completed and tested, I switched what I was doing away from the temporary solution to the fixed problem.
Workarounds should be documented on the bug inside bugzilla, not scattered across various forums, mailinglists, or IRC rooms
We have a single authoritative source for the information regarding bugs. If people are discussing bugs and finding workarounds on forums or lists, fine, but if they are not updating that information in the bug on bugzilla, they are doing a huge disservice for the Project as a whole and increasing workload and pressure on our developers;
as a developer there's few things more annoying and demotivating than hurriedly working a solution that your bug tracker says is critical and urgent and horrible just to find that there was a workaround and the problem could have been prioritised behind two or three equally nasty problems that do not have a workaround.
Don't delude yourself that taking conversations away from Bugzilla helps anybody, it does not.
That is a very good point and a good reminder. It certainly makes sense that we should be keeping in communication with you all, the developers, when you are working together with us on solving a problem, and not keeping you guys in the dark if we find a workaround through the forums. Which is why it seems that if everyone does things properly, the forums and lists can be a help to solving bugs, rather than a competition. A real synergistic effect can result which benefits everyone - users, developers, and improvement of the entire system. It is a marketplace of ideas in action. If we (users and developers) act only in self-interest, there is limited benefit to only a small group of people. However, if we act in our own interests AND the interests of the group, there are wide ranging beneficial effects. -- George Box: 42.3 | KDE Plasma 5.8 | AMD Phenom IIX4 | 64 | 32GB Laptop #1: 42.3 | KDE Plasma 5.8 | AMD FX 7TH GEN | 64 | 32GB Laptop #2: 42.3 | KDE Plasma 5.8 | Core i5 | 64 | 8GB -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org