hi all at suse, have you missed the gpl-going of jmax ?? you should take a look at it: http://www.ircam.fr/jmax its a great audio/midi software linke max/msp for mac's. its over a year ago that they gone gpl with jmax. i strongly suggest you to include this in further suse distributions. its the most excellent piece of music-software for linux i know. and i guess it will be this for a long time. the newest versions (source and binary rpms) could be found on my page. the version at ircam is rather old, only the cvs versions there are actual. i heard a lot of people who want to have this included in a distro, since it could be a hazle to get it working out of the cvs-sources as alot people are not so familiar java/swing/etc installing to get it running. greetings, christian -- visit me at http://mamalala.de