On Sun, 6 Jan 2002, Matt T. wrote: mt> mt> On Sunday 06 January 2002 02:37, S.Toms wrote: mt> [...] mt> > I suspect the drivers are causing some problem, but I also suspect mt> > the the KDE logout has a problem. I have been debating about going back mt> > to the SuSE brand of the drivers until I tried doing a quick logout from mt> > KDE by pressing Ctrl+Alt+Shift+Del which seems to exit safetly back to the mt> > KDM logon screen. mt> mt> Well, for me Ctrl+Alt+Shift+Del gives the same crash. However mt> Ctrl+Alt+Backspace brings me back to the KDM logon screen. mt> Great, at least a workaround for now! mt> I was hoping it would have worked for you, that was theonly workaround I could come up with. Using the Ctrl+Alt+Backspace I mine actually causes it to freeze whereas the Ctrl+Alt+Shift+Del will safetly log me out. The Ctrl+Alt+Backspace doesn't really logout though, I explain it more below. mt> > The reason I suspect KDE as being part of the problem is that when mt> > hitting the logout button or pressing Ctrl+Alt+Del it asks to save the mt> > current configuration which I'm skipping with the above key sequence. mt> mt> Did you try what happens if you logout under Gnome? For me it is exactly the mt> same problem - the same crash just before the KDM logon screen should appear. mt> So at least in my installation it is not a kde specific logout problem, mt> however it could of course be a kdm logon problem. mt> No, I'm not using gnome on my systems so I havn't even tried it. mt> I did not switch off the nvidia logo, so I see it coming up nicely just mt> before the crash. mt> I don't even get the logo before it crashes. The only time I see it is during the next restart after that crash. mt> Does anyone know what happens differently at a logout compared to the first mt> login, or the one forced with Ctrl+Alt+Backspace ? mt> The Ctrl+Alt+Backspace isn't really a logout, it actually forcibly kills the X session. The only two methods of logging out supported by KDE are the Ctrl+Alt+Del and the Ctrl+Alt+Shift+Del. The former will ask for user confirmation whereas the latter will just exit quickly. mt> Thanks, mt> Matt mt> mt> -- S.Toms - smotrs@mindspring.com - www.mindspring.com/~smotrs SuSE Linux v7.2+ - Kernel 2.4.4 Going to church does not make a person religious, nor does going to school make a person educated, any more than going to a garage makes a person a car.